Erik: Joining me now is Jesse Felder, author of the Felder Report and, from time to time, also the producer of an excellent podcast.
Jesse, it’s been too long. It’s great to have you back on the program. Let’s start with the stock market. Here we are, much to my surprise at least, not quite all-time highs today but within the last several sessions we’ve been at all-time highs. I don’t know about you, but the economic message of everything’s rosy and it makes sense for the stock market to be at all-time highs is not resonating in my mind.
How do you see this market?
Jesse: You know, it’s actually been, I think, a year since you had me on. And back then I shared a bunch of charts with your audience showing the breadth divergences. And, really, the number of hidden Hindenburg Omens was the thing that really stood out to me. And we had that steep fourth-quarter decline right after that last time we talked.
I think we’re at another similar point right now where stocks are kind of still trickling higher but valuations are extreme, almost no matter how you measure them. And I’m seeing that kind of deterioration under the surface again.
Erik: Joining me now is author John Netto, author of The Global Macro Edge.
John, it’s great to have you on the program. Usually I ask the question about the issues that I see as the real drivers of the market. Frankly, my question today is what the heck is driving this market?
Because it seems like everybody is obsessed with this Trump-Xi negotiation thing. Frankly, it feels to me like it’s produced for public consumption. I think we’re going through theatrics here.
Is this really about FOMC policy and expectations of rate cuts? Why are we seeing over this last weekend the huge gap-up open? What is driving the market, in your opinion, right now? And what should investors be paying the most attention to?
John: First of all, thanks for having me on Erik. It’s a pleasure to be here. I’m a long-time fan of the show. So I feel like I’m on hallowed ground right now.
To you question. I think when you look at the gap-up that took place in the S&P from Sunday from the G20 reconciliation, the Trump-Xi trade talk reconciliation that happened in Osaka, it’s more about a quasi-Goldilocks scenario.
Marin, the last few times we’ve had you on the program, you made some really bold calls and you got lucky with one of them which was Nevsun.
I shouldn’t say you completely got lucky. It was a good call and it was good analysis. But you got lucky on the timing. It just broke out crazy about two or three days after you recommended it on this program. So I think the timing on that was luck.
The next one that you described on a subsequent interview, you couldn’t tell us at the time the name of the company because it only for your subscribers. But we can now tell them that was Uranium Royalty Corporation. You got your subscribers in on a financing on that one.
How has that performed since we talked to you about it, I can’t remember how many months ago?
Erik: Joining me next on the program is Greg Weldon, the founder of Weldon Live, well-known commodities expert. Greg, everybody knows you as the commodities guy and probably are expecting me to dive right in to commodities.
But I think before we go there we should talk about central banks, monetary policy, and the general condition of the world. Because I think something you and I agree on is that, to understand the commodities picture, you’ve got to understand the monetary policy picture first.
So where do we start in terms of the situation that the world is in and where we’re headed? Do you want to talk about the Fed or the ECB? Where do you want to start?
Greg: I don’t know. If you’ve got three or four hours, then we can discuss it all. What I find interesting is the commodities angle because in the business 35 years, started on the trading floor in the COMEX in the World Trade Center back in the early ‘80s. And what I see is that everything has been commoditized.
So we are the commodities guys because we look at everything. It includes stocks and bonds. And everything is now a commodity because of this secular credit bubble that goes all the way back to 1971.
And now you’re at a point that’s becoming more and more obvious as – particularly today as we’re recording, when Mario Draghi is in the headlines and this continued push for even more stimulus beyond QE, beyond negative actual deposit rates and official policy rates.
I always love interviewing the Hedgeye guys because they always come with really great slide decks. Josh is no exception this week. He’s put together a really excellent slide deck for us. It will be a challenge to get to all of the slides.
But I’m sure that you, our listeners, will enjoy every bit of it just the same. You can find the download link in your Research Roundup email. If you’re not yet registered for Research Roundup, just go to our home page at macrovoices.com and look for the red button that says Looking for the Downloads next to Josh’s picture.
Josh, last time that we had you for a housing update I think was when you spoke at our live even in Toronto last summer. Give us the update on US and Canadian housing, which is the same topic we’ve talked to you about before. Quite a bit has happened since then.
Let’s go ahead and dive into your slide deck.